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Very recently, a Surly forum was added to mtbr.com. Fortunately, most of the information is accurate and helpful. But, as you can well imagine, some of the threads contain speculation, misinformation, ego, and outright stupidity. And, there aren't enough hours in the day for us to police the forum for errant information. You're on your own with this one. I honestly appreciate the posts from those in the know….the ones that clarify the facts and disprove the misinformation for the masses. I offer sincere thanks to all of the helpful individuals who are not just talking shit and starting false rumors. Your pictures and posts are great vehicles for unbiased testimonials and helpful information. Thank you. -----